Gender Pay Gap In The Freelance Economy: What We’ve Learnt So Far

   

How come we are still talking about the gender pay gap in 2018?

If you think the whole issue is a bogus one, think again. If you’re a woman, mind the pay gap. If you’re a female freelancer, there’s still hope for you.

Here’s what we’ve learnt about the gender pay gap so far.

Why is gender pay gap a problem (for everyone)?

Let’s kick this off the right way. What’s the gender pay gap, anyway?

The gender pay gap refers to the difference in median earnings between men and women. This difference is expressed as a percentage of male earnings and typically varies across different industries, professions and regions.

Despite the obvious unfair reality that women get paid less on average than their male counterparts, often for the same or comparable work (due to reasons that we’ll look at later on), the gender pay gap also reduces women’s lifetime earnings and consequently, their pension, contributing significantly to women’s poverty later in life. And that’s just wrong.

What seems common sense even to the first-graders, somehow gets normalised and integrated into our lives as we’re growing up. In honour of the International Women’s Day, Norwegian trade union Finansforbundet carried out an experiment with children, asking them to fill two vases with pink and blue balls. Once the task had been completed, boys were rewarded with far more sweets than girls. See the kids react to this unusual decision.

More than 120 years after the pay inequality issue was first raised in the UK, the gender pay gap persists. Why? Let’s look at what the latest research data in the UK and around the world suggests.

So, how big is the gap?

Sadly, the gap is still much bigger than one would expect it to be.

The mean gender pay gap for full-time work is reported to be at 14.1% and jumps to 18.4% when part-time work is included. Although it is supposedly decreasing over time, the progress simply isn’t fast enough.

Following the new law which requires all public and private organisations in Britain with more than 250 or more employees to report the difference between what they pay men and women, we’re learning the gender pay gap situation is still an embarrassment to the modern-day society.  

As of the time of writing, 77% of nearly 3000 companies that had reported said they pay men more than women on average, 9% have managed to close the pay gap and 14% said they pay women more than men.

Essentially, what this means is that women in the UK work for free for more than two months a year, or 67 days to be precise (however, compared to some other European countries, the British women are still quite lucky; see the map below). The figure can be even higher in certain sectors. In the education sector, for example, the pay gap runs at 26.5%, meaning the average female worker works more than 90 days without a pay. In the finance and insurance sector, the pay gap is larger, sitting at 35.6%.  

 

 

The pay inequality at some of the country’s best-known universities is also staggering. For example, the University of Manchester reported: “an 87% median bonus pay gap, indicating that for every £1 paid to a male employee in bonus pay, a woman would receive 13p on average”. The University of Liverpool reported a 19% median hourly gap and a 90% bonus gap (and the list goes on).

Although the pay gap does not measure the pay difference between men and women at the same pay grade, doing the same job, with the same working pattern, the recent pay inequality scandals at BBC, Goldman Sachs and many other leading organisations allow us to suspect that women often get paid less than their male counterparts for producing identical work.

According to The Independent, “more than 120 female BBC employees who believe they are being paid unfairly in comparison to male colleagues” have taken their cases to the National Union of Journalists (NUJ).

What makes the BBC case even worse is that it suggests the pay gap is part of a wider problem: “Behind the headline and most important issue of equal pay at the BBC we believe there is a wider culture of gender discrimination which can be seen in the patterns of promotion, especially after women take maternity leave.”

Another interesting example comes from the world of cinema. Claire Foy, the actress who played the Queen in the Netflix’s hit series The Crown and went on to win a Golden Globe in 2017, was paid less for the first two seasons of the show than her co-star Matt Smith because, as the official statement holds, he was more famous at the time of casting.

The abundance of data and real-life examples indicate that the issue of gender pay gap is still as relevant today as it has been 50 years ago when women machinists at the Ford Car Plant in Dagenham went on strike to demand an equal pay. After three weeks on strike, they returned to work with a small victory, securing an increase in women wages to 92% of what was paid to men for the same type of work. Still not quite equal in the end then, was it?

As the time went by, not only was the progress on this issue sluggish but the pay gap widened in all sectors and the excuses and pretexts to pay women less got even more sophisticated.

The common excuses, and what really causes the gender pay gap

The gender pay gap is a much more complex issue than it might seem at the first glance and many different reasons can cause the discrepancies in earnings between men and women.

  • Direct discrimination can be one of the reasons determining why women get paid less than men for doing the same job. While the equality legislation has greatly improved the situation, gender discrimination, as the BBC example provides, is still very much a real thing in the world of employment. 
  • Even in this day and age, work is still often segregated by gender, with some jobs considered to be for men and some jobs – for women. Historically, men have always been paid more because their work supposedly called for more physical strength or special skills, while women’s work and skills were undervalued. However, when many working men left to fight the First World War and women took over most of their jobs, including tram driving and factory work, it quickly became apparent that there was nothing special about those jobs that women couldn’t do.
    A more recent example can be taken from the Birmingham City Council case, where more than 170 women who had worked as cooks, cleaners, catering and care staff for the council, won compensation because they were denied bonuses, while employees in traditionally male-dominated but similar-level jobs, such as refuse collectors, street cleaners, road workers and grave-diggers, received bonus pay. Although working women are often just as qualified, skilled and talented as their male colleagues (and are producing work of equal value), their pay grade is lower because they’re considered to be doing “women’s” (meaning, less physically or intellectually demanding) work.

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  • The promotion rates is another factor that comes into play here. Gender stereotypes often mean that women are passed over for promotions because they are not considered to be “strong”, “managerial” or “stable” enough to take on higher level responsibilities. Their status as mothers is also often used against them, implying that women can’t be as committed to their jobs because they have a family to look after — for some reason, being a father doesn’t seem to be a problem. As research shows, not only are men 40% more likely than women to be promoted in management roles, the progress achieved in getting more women in top leadership roles is going into reverse. In 2016, 7.8% of chief executives were women, but the figure fell to 6.5% in 2017. 
  • The existing gender pay gap means that women are often forced to take on more household labour because it makes more financial sense. For example, caring for the sick and elderly, taking career breaks to look after young children and doing more housework isn’t only considered to be women’s responsibility, it’s also the “cheapest” solution for a family. Since women typically earn less than men, losing their paycheck at the end of the month isn’t as financially risky as other options.

    Sometimes, the reasons behind women taking more career breaks can also be driven by gender stereotypes and the cultural and societal pressures that come with them. In the end, the sacrifices that women have to make to care for their loved ones come back to hurt their careers, as they struggle to get back into employment as well as suffer from a lack of career progression opportunities and an unfair pay.  

How are women fighting the pay gap?

Besides women’s marches, strikes and even legal cases that women are using to bring employers to justice, they also have a quieter and increasingly more popular way of fighting back — going freelance.

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IPSE found that between 2008 and 2017, the number of the solo self-employed increased by 34% and now constitute 14% of the UK’s workforce, which amounts to approximately 4.4 million skilled professionals. Women make up 35% of the total self-employed workforce.

The report doesn’t stop there. While the number of women working for themselves has grown rapidly, the number of self-employed working mothers shows an even more astonishing growth. The total number of highly skilled freelance mothers has almost doubled since 2008, exhibiting an increase of 96%.

According to our own research, self-employed women earn almost 43% more per hour than employed women. And nearly 7% of women said they earned between 90% and 100% more than they did as an employee. However, despite the obvious financial benefits, most women cited freedom and flexibility as key motivators for the change in their career.

In theory, the gig economy could fix the gender pay gap because women set their own rates. And while many female freelancers are raking in double the money they used to make as employees, others suffer from something known as “self-sabotage”, as they set their own rates much lower than their male counterparts. Lack of confidence, pressure from clients and industry competition are often amongst the most common reasons holding women freelancers back. To close the pay gap, women freelancers must learn how to negotiate with confidence and charge what they’re worth. 

There’s a long way to go until the gender pay gap truly closes, but we have made impressive strides since the day women started fighting for their rights. A society where individuals are rewarded for their merit, regardless of their sex, age, colour or beliefs, is a society worth fighting for, so let’s keep on marching forward.

45 Comments

  • Rakibul Islam

    I learn more about gender pay gap.
    Thanks a lot!!

  • Jay Brown

    If women were truly paid less than men, for exactly the same level/quality/amount of work as men, then every company/firm on the planet would hire only women – to pay less in wages and create more in profit…let that sink in…think about it. Tell me if my statement is incorrect. Don’t go off on a dozen tangents – deal exactly with what I have said.

  • Alexander

    That’s matter. Keep us informed!

  • Val Pavliuchenko

    And it’s fair that men are paid more than women. For what you pay? Men are more focused on achieving the goal, men quickly grasp information than women. A man is born to achieve his goals, go on a career ladder, etc. A man is friendly with technology, and a woman with cosmetics.

  • Val Pavliuchenko

    If women performed quality jobs, then the companies hired them and not us men. All companies in the world prefer to work with men and pay more money – because they get quality work. Women are still far from us.

  • Juste Semetaite

    Hi Val,

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the issue. I would avoid using the word “us” when discussing pay inequality — I doubt many modern men would side with you on this.

  • James McKay

    This is an interesting article and I applaud you for producing it. However, I feel you’re misrepresenting the data. Early in the article, you suggest the pay gap exists “often for the same or comparable work”, you then go on to ask how big the pay gap is (14%+). However, the data doesn’t suggest that. For men and women in comparable roles, the gap decreases to around 2% (which still isn’t good).

    So the critical question is why the distribution of the highest paid jobs not evenly distributed amongst sexes (and for that matter ethnic groups etc). But that question is a much more nuanced and difficult question to answer, but a worthy one that should be explored.

  • Rahul Jaikar

    this matter more curious.

  • Jay Brown

    Hi Juste, would you care to address my initial statements?

  • Jay Brown

    Juste, you really need to see the flaws in your arguments:

    “Historically, men have always been paid more because their work supposedly called for more physical strength or special skills, while women’s work and skills were undervalued. However, when many working men left to fight the First World War and women took over most of their jobs, including tram driving and factory work, it quickly became apparent that there was nothing special about those jobs that women couldn’t do…”

    1. Do you really think that tram driving and factory work are the most physically demanding jobs a man needs to do? No of course not. You should give examples like fishermen, miners, construction laborers, shipbuilders etc. It is an undisputable fact (historically) that men’s jobs (on average) required more physical strength than an (average) woman is comfortable and efficient at using. The sooner women stop lying about this, the better.

    2. “However, when many working men left to fight the First World War and women took over most of their jobs, including tram driving and factory work, it quickly became apparent that there was nothing special about those jobs that women couldn’t do…” – Really? Nothing special about being a soldier? Could an average woman have gone off to successfully fight on the frontline in the first world war (as efficiently as an average man)? No of course not – utter nonsense.

    You see Juste, women only have this dishonest argument when they ignore facts and purposefully avoid dealing with the truth regarding what men have accomplished and endured throughout history to build our civilization. Women have played a massive part in that history of course, but women can never demand true equality from a history of them providing less physical work, suffering, and sacrifice than a man.

    Your segment should have read something like this: “When men left to fight the war – a job which women were completely unfit for, the women naturally then tried to fill the easier jobs in civilian life which the men were no longer present to do.”

    That is truthful Juste. Please do not twist reality.

  • Juste Semetaite

    Jay,

    As much as I appreciate you taking the time to read the article and share your thoughts, I must say I am deeply disappointed with the narrative you’ve constructed in your comment. I’m only responding because I take this as a personal insult, not a valid critique of my writing.

    The factor of physical strength aside, let me ask you what creates more value in the society — a man wielding a gun or a woman caring for the wounded? Although you’re right in saying that there were fewer women fighting in the First World War, it wasn’t for their lack of interest or initiative but due to the fact that war was considered as man’s work and women were simply shunned from the service. (Let me point out that a large part of the society still thinks that way) However, if you actually looked at the facts, you would know that women played a hugely significant role in both world wars caring for the emotional and physical wellbeing of soldiers. They were there, on the battlefields, doing as much as the society allowed them to do — their work, again, going largely unnoticed. On top of that, the economic strain of the war meant that women were already working on the Home Front in factories and other places, and without their contribution, the history might have taken a different course.

    Fast forward to 2018, men and women are leading pretty similar lifestyles, the only difference is that women still have to sacrifice their careers to look after young children, the elderly and the sick; that women have to fight the gender bias on a daily basis for a mere chance to be considered for promotions and pay rises; that their work is considered of less value just because it’s not carried out by a man. In the meantime, men climb the professional ladder pretty much uninterrupted by the society’s annoying orders of how they should live their lives.

    So yes, let’s not twist reality, please. Let’s educate ourselves and have a conversation.

  • Jay Brown

    Juste, the fact that you play the oppressed victim (women constantly do this) by taking my comments as an insult (when they were not at all directed to you in a personal or negative way) and the fact that you completely avoid addressing my comments specifically by raising points which have nothing do to with the very clear arguments I have made, shows me very clearly that you are not open to honest, intelligent and constructive dialogue. The way you immediately cry as a victim the moment I do not agree with your opinion is typical of so many of today’s leftist women, and this shows that further intelligent discussion with you is futile. You feel oppressed and highly indignant and no amount of facts I give you will make you reconsider your opinion or look closely at the truth. I feel sorry for your emotional weakness but wish you luck in your struggle to face reality. Please now feel free to insult me and men in general as I will not respond. Doing so would be pointless.

  • Jay Brown

    P.S. Partly during WWII my grandmother was a nurse at North Manchester hospital and my grandfather was fighting the Germans in Dunkirk. They both played important roles in the war, but my grandmother could not have possibly performed the same job as my grandfather – because of her physical and emotional weaknesses as a woman. No amount of indignant tantrums or self-delusion can change this fact.

  • Alexander

    Well done, Jay! That’s the really reasonable argues.

    Juste: PPH is all about a freelance and all around. Could you please write something about a design or a coding or a copywriting without of all of that “gaps and genders”? 🙂

  • Bitofboth

    And PPH goes full SJW. YEY…………. Keep this crap out the workplace please

  • Lucas DS

    Juste Semetaite,

    Although Jay Brown doesnt need any back up to argue against you, I decided to point out few things either way.

    For starter I am not bias towards my gender. Just like I find ridiculous male using the term MGTOW I find the same with Female using the term Feminism. Also before I go on, why call it feminism? if it’s aimed at gender equality, why not “Gender Equality”? since both gender has its pros and cons? Either way that doesnt matter to this argument.

    “The factor of physical strength aside, let me ask you what creates more value in the society — a man wielding a gun or a woman caring for the wounded?”

    That depends how you look at it. Its impossible to say which is more important. If we are in war certain a man wielding a gun is WAY more important than a woman caring for the wounded. Why? because if you want to win a war, a working gun is essential than saving a wounded person’s life, that is harsh but its the truth, a wounded person can no longer fight in the war therefore spending more resources focusing on that wounded person could potentially lose the war. However if we are not in war then for sure a woman caring for the wounded is more important than a man wielding a gun. So to finish it off, your comment was pointless.

    ” Although you’re right in saying that there were fewer women fighting in the First World War, it wasn’t for their lack of interest or initiative but due to the fact that war was considered as man’s work and women were simply shunned from the service.”

    I hate to break to you but this still the truth and will always be, even if people say otherwise. why? because male is faster/stronger/explosive/aggressive than woman, want some facts? I guess the best way to prove this is by checking the Olympics games, there you will have people performing strength/speed/agility. Choose a sport choose weight and compare the gender records, just to make it easier for you compared the last male of their category with the first female of their category, and you will see that the male STILL out performed the female. This is a good example to why male goes to war.

    I live in UK I have yet to see someone getting paid less or more due to their gender, however I do see that people get paid more if they are willing to sacrifice their time. I studied computer science which is a highly paid area. Out of 200 students around 10 was female. “Ohh no women are not confident enough because… bla bla bla” no thats not the case, women just doesnt like these types of subjects.

    The reality is male and female are different, and its meant to be that way. Why do we have to focus on the negative of each gender? Why not just be proud of who you are your race your gender and just live happy? why create such irresponsible article which will only create more chaos divide us even more than we already are?

    What are you trying to achieve with this article? do you really think is doing any good?

    You know you could have done an article promoting women, how amazing they are, how important they are, their benefits, outline the best scientist and what they have achieved and contributed to the world. BUT f*** that lets just f*** things up because that’s what we love right? of course none of you are here to help women you are here to make them miserably by constantly promoting bias opinions. Yeah this is really helping everyone.

  • Owais Ahmed

    Very informative

  • Richard

    Juste

    Thank you for the excellent article. You know that you are on the right track when some men protest. I have worked for large and small companies in the UK and there is no doubt that there is Gender Pay Gap. Reviewing salaries in my teams I could see it….. even in new hires. It was not that people overtly wanted to pay women less – the reasons are a lot more complex. E.g. if you are a PA (often women) you get paid less than a business analyst (often men) for similar skills, etc. And it is not a supply and demand issue…

    A simple example of gender roles that support the pay gap issues. Me – “Boss, my kid is sick and I need to pick her up from school”. Boss’s reply – ” Can’t your wife do that?”

    By the way Jay

    Your remarks are extremely offensive to me, as a white male, too.

  • Richard

    Val

    In many counties, including the UK, paying people with the same skills & experience, etc, different salaries based on gender, race and other factors is illegal. That is not what the Gender Pay Gap is about.

  • Juste Semetaite

    Richard, thank you for chiming in with your real-life experience. The comment section was getting very depressing very quickly, so I’m relieved to see that there are people who understand that gender pay gap isn’t about who is stronger or faster.

  • Juste Semetaite

    I understand reading is a demanding task. Please have a look here, there are lots of colourful pictures illustrating the gender pay gap in the UK:
    https://www.theguardian.com/news/ng-interactive/2018/apr/04/gender-pay-gap-when-does-your-company-stop-paying-women-in-2018

  • Jay Brown

    Richard. If truth is offensive, would you suggest living a lie instead to prevent getting hurt feelings?

  • Jay Brown

    By the way I don’t think anybody is actually disputing the fact that there is a pay gap, as clearly women ARE paid less than men. The question is why, and the answer is simple –
    men work harder, longer and more productively – they achieve more. Men know this. Women know it deep down but many of them will not admit it.

  • Richard

    Jay

    The truth is not offensive – I find your language and the way that you attacked the author as offensive – wasn’t that your aim?

    You do not have a monopoly on the truth. It’s always a shame to hear that people still want to fight against equality. What exactly is wrong with equality?

  • Jay Brown

    Richard,

    My aim is always the truth. Nothing more. I have seen so much damage done in this world because of people hiding from the truth. The problem with equality is that it does not exist, anywhere in nature, and certainly not in humans – we are all different. I have an issue with team members not pulling their weight and dragging other team members down yet still expecting the same rewards as the team’s best. That’s the simplest and quickest analogy I can think of at this moment.

    Anyway Richard you are clearly on the left and I am on the right so it is not worth arguing, especially as you are so easily offended by the slightest difference of opinion.

  • Jay Brown

    “I find your language and the way that you attacked the author as offensive…” – I care only about facts, not feelings. Evidence, not emotions. Proof, not perception.

    You had your feelings hurt by my opinion Richard, because it is different than yours. Welcome to the real world. Live with it.

  • dawood zubair

    The Payroll should be equal , if the women performed quality job as men.

  • Richard

    Jay

    I did not have my feelings hurt by your opinions – but by your personal attack on the author. I am sorry that you are not able to understand that. Suggesting that I did – was again wrong.

    Being on the right of politics is nothing to be proud of – it is deeds and actions that count. You have not understood equality if you describe it as you do – I am sure that not embracing equality suits your way of life.

    Please feel free to put me in any box you like. – left, feminist, gay, black or white….. If that helps you. I am sure that whatever box you put me in will help you feel superior….

    Every decade the human race moves towards equality whether driven by politics, religion or just the recognition of the benefits …… the work done by the UK Government on the Gender Pay Gap support this evolution….

    I would suggest that you try living as a woman for a few days and see if you feel good about how you are treated…. One way is to send emails to people with a female name instead of male name and see if you get the same response…

    I won’t reply again – but thanks for the conversation, Jay.

  • Jay Brown

    A pleasure. You have so much yet to learn Richard and so much of the world yet to experience. I wish you good luck on your venture for the truth.

  • James

    Freelancing is the epitome of meritocracy, and the amount which a candidate is paid is directly relative to how well they present themselves on the professional market – and how much a potential client is willing to pay based on their perception of ability.

    Juste, if you feel that the pay gap has affected you in the freelance economy then perhaps you should try marketing yourself as a male to put your hypothesis to test! I personally believe that both men and women should be treated as individuals rather than collective groups, and from my experience (or at least within the sectors I have worked in: IT, marketing, writing / journalism) this view is echoed by the market, as in freelancing: a pay gap is near non-existent.

    This is coming from somebody who currently works both as a freelancer, and an employer of freelancers. I put out a writing call for a financial technology writing position recently and only two women applied out of a total of 15+ applicants. All candidates however are being reviewed independently, because if an individual is going to perform better than their competitors; I am going to hire them, man or woman.

    Unfortunately in a meritocracy, the amount of financial quantitative value which you contribute to the bottom line of the company is more respected than the raw number of hours worked. I believe that unless more women are prepared to develop skills in these areas of production (be it production of money through sales, raw materials, or processed products), then they are not going to be paid the same as men in today society.

    This is because we live in a capitalist society, and the only idealistic solution (which I assume the writer of the article may be sympathetic to, but I am personally against) would be socialism or communism – which more often leads to equality of poverty for all.

    That said, I do not believe I have seen any personal attacks in this article and I do not see how any hurt feelings on either side could be attributable to the person saying those supposedly-offending words!

  • Luis Manzo

    Yes, and also what about the funding gap that female entrepreneurs and female led startups miss out on? There are reports of that gap being even wider in favor of men, who probably do most of the hiring here on PPH! I’d love to see an article on the funding gap also, let’s not forget female job creators matter just as much as the female job seekers.

  • Rick Grimes

    Seriously? PPH is diving into this too? There have been dozens of studies on this issue and they do not actually reflect what is being touted on this article. The difference between the INTERESTS and PRIORITIES of men and women are the 2 most significant reasons for the so called “Gender Pay Gap”.

    It’s fine if you believe this. But for those who don’t need Safe Spaces who are actually interested to hear/see the other side of the argument, and are not afraid to maybe have your belief shaken or at least put in doubt, just search for the keywords :

    “Gender Pay Gap” + any of these names (Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Steven Crowder, Milo Yiannopoulos). Follow the crumbs afterwards…then decide for yourself.

  • Jay Brown

    Rick don’t forget Stefan Molyneux 🙂

  • Anthony Tornambe

    good article, I have bookmarked it.

  • Nicken Kotak

    There are a number of reasons why women tend to get paid less than men.

    Gender is only one of perhaps 15 or 20 reasons why. Gender is a small reason why women tend to get paid less.

    Try asking millennials about the gender pay gap. In 2018, on average more women are shortlisted for jobs, women have a better chance as employers are actively looking for women, in general under 30 women are are being paid more for the same kind of work as men.

    Why should women get a preference? Why should men get a preference? Neither should.

    The BEST PERSON FOR THE JOB should get the job.

    Equality is only equality when both sides are relatively balanced, not when society is trying to make up for history.

    You can’t fix history, it is what it is, but you can look forward to equality.

    I hope the under 30s men and women start to get paid equally too – it;s not fair.

    It is not fair that women get paid more than men for under 30s; it is also not fair that men get paid more than women above 30s.

    Equality is golden 🙂

  • Ash Kay

    Pay gap is a myth, do your research before you write. I cannot believe an article like this is supported by a credible website. Just like Jay Brown said, if it were really true then we would only find companies full of women since and intelligent business manager would hire the cheapest workers who can do the same amount of work.

    What about tennis where men play 5 sets and women play 3 sets but both finalists get the same prize money? The men have to work more to earn the same amount of money. Why doesn’t anyone complain? If this was the other way round where women play 5 sets and men play 3 but both get equal pay there would be uproar.

  • Mike Durre

    Men and Women and very different. Big Media has hoodwinked many, like this well-meaning author, into believing men and woman are exactly the same…and any difference in outcome is discrimination.

    Deep down, we all know why men get paid more than women. Even the author understands (see the last sentence in the second to last paragraph.

  • Shawn Meike

    Freedom of speech is important. No doubt about that. But I find it extremely weird to stumble across an identity-politics article on a business site. There are better platforms for those. Rubbish bin comes to mind first, followed by CNN in the second place.

  • shuborna yesmin

    Very informative

  • Mark Shrigley

    Oh great – another left wing article. Will pass on it…

  • Christopher Laing

    This is one of the first articles I have read where it discusses personal responsibility in the determining what we get paid. Companies should have more pay transparency no question. This is a matter for both sexes. However, it really concerns me that seemingly intelligent people use statistics and examples out of context. The market often determines the rate and it discriminates mainly on marketability (particularly on TV) of the actors. Matt Smith was the first Doctor Who to be BAFTA nominated in his first series. Let’s not be selective in our evidence gathering. I’m sure Claire Foy will be able to command a higher salary now the show is more popular and her marketability has gone up.

    My second point is about the untold story of men and women living in a cooperative environment where they both have a contribution to their household economy. Many of these articles pit men against women and ignore that most women have children and live in partnership (or get married) to a man. So if women take time off to have children, the man’s contribution increases and the woman’s decreases while she is earning less. The difference in the pay gap screams discrimination, yet as far as the family finances are concerned, so long as he or she is able to earn more, they are able to keep themselves afloat. Better childcare provision is critical in the early years for families to be able to keep their earnings as high as possible, without missing out on promotions or career progression, if this is what they desire. Many people don’t desire to just keep climbing the ladder. Why do we promote the ‘rat race’ or the male model of, ‘work as many hours as you can to earn as much money as possible’? Considering suicide us the biggest killer of males, maybe there is a cost in the constant push to keep climbing.

    As for the last section about women being forced into caring roles or forced into taking on more household labour. It annoys me about the use of the word ‘forced’. If there are specific cases we can point out, fair enough. Being forced into looking after a sick relative or raise children dismisses our own desire to actually want to do it. I was able to take time off to stay at home with my son and it was the most rewarding thing I have done. Why as a specie do we play down the most important thing we can do, and instead see it as a consequence of a gender pay gap. It insults the joy that can be had in raising children.

    I’ll give this article 4 out of 10 for effort and 1 out of 10 for statistical analysis,

  • Mateo D. Corral

    All must be equal.

  • Mike

    There is no such thing in a world as equality.

    We always differ between each other, and most people won’t be able to earn more than let say $50,000 a year.
    We differ in height, build, strength, agility, IQ, memory, education and more.

    Remember that any kind of requests can be made against government companies. Public company director has only one thing to think about.

    Company good being. Nothing else.

    If market pays X for a certain job, then he will hire appropriate person with least salary requirements.

    No one aim at paying less to women, it is a capitalism, and just a reason to this is a fact that women agree’s to much smaller salaries than their husbands.

    There is no barrier to women to earn equally as men. As long they work EXACTLY the same job, with same attitude, professionalism and same hours per year.

    Otherwise it would be unfair to men to pay more women for working less, with more unstable attitude and doing that with smaller performance.

    Equal, means equal. For exactly same education, skills, attitude, experience, working hours, etc.

    Not less, not more.

  • Joe C

    Hi all,

    I know that there are a lot of very strong opinions on this topic but I will try to stay within my own personal experiences. Most of my experiences with this started in college. I went to a school that was, up until the 1970s, an all girls college. I did not have much money and had to work full time while going to school full time. I transferred in from a community school with a 3.88 GPA and some really strong recommendations from past professors, hoping to qualify from some needs based/academic scholarship. I qualified for nothing since my parents made 40k with three boys. (thats pretty tight for a family of 5). Even though I did not qualify there were many minorities and and girls that I knew that did (many of them friends and acquaintances). While they were able to party and kept GPAs of 2.0-3.0 I continued to work full time and kept a 3.5.
    After graduating in 09 I started looking into becoming a police officer. I scored a 95 on the test and was told that I was too white and the wrong gender to score that low. This was not some old jaded cop who told me this either. It was the chief who then told me about the quota system and how hiring works there. To qualify men were also required to do a 1.5 mile run in 10.5 min 30 sit-ups in one minute and 30 pushups in 30 minutes, females were were required to do a 1.5 mile run in 13.5 minutes and 20 (female style) push ups and 20 sit-ups. Understand we need female cops especially when there are incidents when women have been victimized. There is a need for sure. That year when I would do ride alongs there were two female cops that were fantastic and really could hold there own the other three where frankly a real liability to themselves and the other officers. The last time I checked the creepy guy in the ally does not care that you can only do 20 push ups because your of a different gender.
    Fast forward six years me and my lovely (and very smart) wife own a brokerage. You would not believe how many times I have had to hand over a buyer or seller to my wife because they would only work with a women agent and flat out said that, following it with, “but you are very nice”. We also now have employees and one is even going to be having a baby girl this fall and we are so excited for her but yes I will be paying for another person to take her place and then will have to either keep the new hire or fire them when she comes back (we are so hoping she comes back bc she is great) but do not tell me that does not cost anything and that it has the same effect to my bottom line.
    At the end of the day I think we all need to admit women are discriminated against and the scummy guys that do it need a kick in the head! It really pisses me off when some of the old men in our community look down or demean my wife who has earned their respect! The thing that kills me though is that it happens to men as well and it seems like everyone is very alright with it in fact, they encourage it. But I am not a victim and I refuse to become stuck and dwell on it.
    My wife and I now have a baby girl and a baby boy (twins). I want them to know they can both be what ever they want. I also want them to know that the world is not fair and never will be. They may be a victim of discrimination but the worst thing they can do is to see them self as a victim because as soon as they do the the person who did the discriminating has won and truly robed them of something much grater then one single opportunity.

  • Richard

    Mike

    I know that you have fixed views and nothing will change them but…. here are a few thoughts

    I think that you mean that there is no such things as your ‘definition’ of equality.

    So I agree that people should be paid the same for exactly same education, skills, attitude, experience, working hours, etc. (I would suggest outputs rather than inputs but that is another point). But given that, they should not be paid differently or have different opportunities based on their gender.

    Are you suggesting that people have never been discriminated against? Women have never been paid less for doing the same (exactly) role? If not why was equal pay legislation implemented?

    Have you ever been discriminated against and how did you find it? – perhaps to do with what school you went to, what your family are like, where you live, your accent, etc. The key issue is whether you were discriminated because of something that does or does not impact on your ability to do a job… so that although your ability to do the job was the same as someone else (you were equal) you were discriminated on the basis of something that was not relevant e.g. colour of skin, gender, age, spouse, etc.

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